What is this episode of The Logic of AI Magic about?

Episode 7 of The Logic of AI Magic. Binny Gill talks with Vasu Gummadi, SVP of AI & Automation at Indium, about why the next era of business automation is moving from brittle scripts to autonomous, reasoning-driven systems — and what enterprise leaders need to change to get there.

Vasu Gummadi is Senior Vice President of AI & Automation at Indium. Vasu Gummadi joins Binny Gill, founder and CEO of Kognitos, on episode 7 of The Logic of AI Magic.

What's the main takeaway from this episode?

How services and platform partners are rebuilding their automation practice around autonomous systems, and what changes for enterprise IT, ops, and finance teams when scripts give way to systems that reason.

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The Logic of AI Magic · Episode 7

From Scripts to Systems: The Rise of Autonomous Business Automation

Binny Gill is joined by Ram Sukumar and Jagannath Bharadwaj from Indium to explore the evolution from traditional, script-based automation to a new era of agentic AI that can understand, reason, and execute complex business workflows.

Host

Binny Gill

Founder & CEO, Kognitos

Guest

Ram Sukumar

Co-founder & CEO, Indium

Guest

Jagannath Bharadwaj

Chief Business Officer, Indium

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About this episode

This episode explores the evolution from traditional, script-based automation to a new era of agentic AI that can understand, reason, and execute complex business workflows. Binny, Ram, and Jagan unpack what it really takes to move beyond brittle automation systems and into autonomous business operations, where AI doesn’t just follow instructions — it interprets intent and adapts in real time.

They dig into the importance of clear, auditable logic — systems that mimic human language while maintaining governance, traceability, and trust at enterprise scale — and what Indium and Kognitos are doing together to bridge the gap between experimentation and production-ready AI.

What this episode covers

The shift from script-based automation to agentic AI systems
What “autonomous business automation” actually means in production
How AI can understand intent, not just follow instructions
The role of human-readable, auditable logic in enterprise AI
Real-world use cases where agentic AI drives execution end-to-end
What the Indium × Kognitos partnership means for enterprise customers

About the guests

Guest

Ram Sukumar — Co-founder & CEO, Indium

Ram has led Indium’s transformation from a startup into a global, AI-first digital engineering powerhouse. Over the past five years, he has driven 40%+ CAGR, scaled the company to 5,000+ associates, and forged partnerships with Fortune 500 enterprises. By embedding AI into Indium’s DNA, he has turned it into a strategic differentiator that delivers measurable business outcomes.

Guest

Jagannath Bharadwaj — Chief Business Officer, Indium

With 25+ years across Indium, Ciklum, and Cognizant, Jagan has successfully built and scaled global AI sales and delivery organizations, accelerating growth through deep collaboration with product and platform partners. A strong advocate of a “ONE team” culture, he inspires performance-driven, highly engaged teams that deliver strong business outcomes.